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Ian: This might be a good question for Radio 4's More Or Less.

I can look at Table 2.1 Number of individual income taxpayers - Publications - GOV.UK and see there are 5.75m taxpayers 65's and over in the current tax year

It's hard to work that to £10k for over 75s.

There are 11.1m over 65s in the UK, so 52% of them pay tax. Working from [1] there are 4.88 people in the UK over 75 (2+1.5+.9+.48).

Seems that perhaps as many as 2.53m of them could be paying tax. But that's a engineer's straight-line estimate.

There are four more issues:

A) Households with more than one over 75 year old only get once licence. That must be the 0.88m difference between the number of over 75s and the number of homes claiming a free licence.

B) How do you get proof of £10,000 income in a way that is cost effective? Do you send a bill to every home and ask everyone over 75 to show how much income they have?

C) You reduce the bill for over 75s by half: so who pays the remaining £300m?

D) What of the commitment to "protect pensioner benefits including TV licences"?


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Charles Stuart: The idea of the windfall tax is a great one! However, I would personally prefer such a windfall to be spent on a free personal trainer, gym membership and cookery teacher for everyone in the UK who needs one.

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Fred Perkins: Sorry, I should have more clearly signposted the "BBC could be made to pay for the £600m cost of free TV licences itself, George Osborne says" article from the press ...
BBC could be made to pay for the ?600m cost of free TV licences itself, George Osborne says - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

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I'm having a few problems with your logic.

Isn't Lord Reith famous for three words "inform, educate and entertain"?

When he left the BBC in 1936 it ran three radio services, the National Programme, the Regional Programme and (outside the UK, the Empire Service). All of these were mixed schedules of entertainment, news and factual. Listeners could switch between stations to choose programmes, but both would carry all forms of radio.

And, of course, the BBC television service was on air from 1936, some two decades before the first of the ITV franchise came on air. So the BBC was showing drama, game shows and the like long before anyone else.

You might also like to know that promotional sequences to invite viewers to watch other programmes are not adverts. An "advert" is when a third party pays the broadcaster to promote goods and services in return for a payment. I must admit you don't get to see adverts or promos if you watch online.

I'm guessing that what you are trying to says it "show only the things that I watch"?

Also, I don't get what "mockery of scheduled programme times" means, but I use the 28 days window the iPlayer (or longer with Freesat+HD) to watch things when I want!





A vision of public service broadcasting associated with the Scotsman John Reith (1889–1971), who became managing director of the BBC in 1923 and declared that it should aim to inform, educate, and entertain (very much in that order). For him, Public Service Broadcasting was based on four principles: firstly, it should be protected from commercial pressures; secondly, it should serve the whole nation, not just urban centres; thirdly, it should be under the control of a single unified body; and fourthly, it should be a monopoly. See also public broadcasting service; quality television; compare commercialization; fiction values.

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Jamie: thanks for that. I was rather hoping to get several detailed articles on this topic. Your input is very valuable.

For all the use I get from my Freesat+HD box I would also be one of the 4% but it seemed very unfair to have this site and not contribute to the BBC when it is the bulk of my non-US watching.

Anyway I was trying to come up with a "checklist" so you can legally prove you can't watch live TV on them.

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MikeB: I'm going to go into this with more detail, but I'm going to look at the UK version being the not having to pay for a TV Licence because that's been I the news. BBC aims to become 'leaner and simpler' with new round of job cuts | Media | The Guardian

"Drop in the number of licence fee payers leaves broadcaster with a £150m hole in its finances"

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The new proposals are expected to save £50m largely by merging divisions and cutting layers of management.

Senior management roles will be cut across the board. In some places there are currently 10 layers of people and this will be cut to a maximum of seven in all areas. In a release the BBC said: A simpler organisation will inevitaby require few managers, especially at senior levels.
Professional and support areas will be simplified and procedures standardised, a move that will hit employees in marketing and communication, finance, HR, IT support and the legal department.
Technology teams across digital, engineering and worldwide will be merged. Staff in these areas are to be told to expect further changes.
The new measures being proposed are expected to save £50m from merging divisions, cutting down management layers and improving processes.

Consultation with staff will start in earnest over the summer, with most of the jobs expected to go by the beginning of next year.

From BBC to cut more than 1,000 jobs in cost-saving push

BBC to cut more than 1,000 jobs in cost-saving push | Media | The Guardian

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Clive: I have the HUMAX
FREESAT-HDR1010 Humax FREESAT-HDR1010 White | freesat+ G2 Box 1TB Hard Drive PVR | Richer Sounds which I paid much more than the current £190.It also has wireless internet access for iPlayer, ITV Player and other on demand services.

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