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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - DAB: Slightly reduced power due to a fault from 2 Dec 12:01 until 2 Dec 19:05. . FM: Slightly reduced power due to a fault from 2 Dec 12:01 until 2 Dec 19:05. . BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-3200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 250 BBC Red Button, plus 15 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-3200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 25 ITV4, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C48- (689.8MHz)324mDTG-6200,000W
Channel icons
73 Shopping Quarter , 101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 204 CBBC HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
 CCXTV, 12 Quest, 20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 42 GREAT! movies action, 45 Channel 5 +1, 56 5SELECT, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 60 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 CBS Reality, 68 Horror Channel, 74 Drama +1, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 203 CITV, 211 Ketchup TV, 212 YAAAS!, plus 16 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Arts, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 4Music, 36 pick, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 46 Film4 +1, 47 Challenge, 48 4seven, 57 Smithsonian Channel, 70 Quest +1, 75 Yesterday +1, 83 Together TV, 233 Sky News, plus 9 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
25 Dave ja vu, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 41 CBS Justice, 44 HGTV, 68 CBS Drama, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 234 RT, 235 Aljazeera English, plus 17 others

LW
 H -10dB
C29 (538.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

com7
 H -6.7dB
C55 (746.0MHz)324mDTG-643,100W
Channel icons
 Together TV +1,  Merit,  Court TV, 65 FreeSports, 71 Quest Red +1, 76 Now 70s, 86 More4 +1, 87 PBS America +1, 91 That's TV , 96 Forces TV, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC News HD, 113 RT HD, 114 Quest HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 2 others

DTG-3 64QAM 8K 2/3 24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-6 256QAM 32KE 2/3 40.2Mb/s DVB-T2 MPEG4
DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 11km north-northwest (334°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C48BBCB
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Wednesday, 4 April 2012
Dave Lindsay
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

2:03 PM

Linda, Thea, Matt (and others with the same issue): In addition to knowing whether my suggestion of unplugging the aerial at 30% solves the problem, it would be useful to know the make and model number of the problematic box or TV.

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Thea
2:10 PM

Dave: I have just given that a try, the blue box came back it seemed to take a bit longer and the signals on other channels seem to be weak, turned off and back to square one, any other suggestions...

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Thea's 8 posts GB
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Ed
2:18 PM

Thanks Mike... i just removed my sky box from the chain and tried again - Success!

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Thea
2:23 PM

Dave: the tv is a Samsung Slim about 3 years old, the digital box is about a month old and is a (argos)bush BU11FVZS2/A, do you think I need to replace anything...

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Matt
2:37 PM

Dave - Goodmans GDB18FVZS2. I'm afraid your fix didn't work.

The other sets in the house have no such message after retuning.
I'm guessing it must be a system-wide freeview message. Maybe it will disappear after today.

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rob
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4:00 PM

Hi There. I have a ferguson tv box which i brought from comet recently. Today i re tuned my box as part of switchover process.. I am confused i get BBC1 and BBC2 new service but no signal.. I found working bbc 1 + 2 on 801 and 802.... i cant re order it so is on 1 and 2.. any help will be gratefull

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Mike Dimmick
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

4:16 PM

Those constantly getting retune messages should probably contact the box or TV's manufacturer.

I'm aware that some equipment might do this if it picks up signals from more than one transmitter. You could try doing a manual retune - unplug the aerial before doing a full reset (first time installation, factory reset, full retune, virgin mode, default setting), allow it to complete its scan (not finding anything), then manually tune in C23, C22, C28, C29, C32 and C34. If you don't have a Sky Sports subscription through BT Vision or Top-Up TV you can skip C28. If you have an HD box (and I sincerely hope this problem doesn't occur on them!) you can try tuning in C31 as well.

If your box doesn't offer manual tuning, try starting the reset process with the aerial plugged in, then unplug the aerial when it gets to about 28% through. If you can see it listing the channels found, unplug when it sees the services on Mux C (PICK TV, Dave, Really) and leave it until it completes. You can find other tips on how to handle this at Digital Region Overlap.

I did read from a poster on Digital Spy's forums that Crystal Palace was carrying service information last night for both pre-switchover Mux 1 and post-switchover BBC A. I hope that isn't the cause of the problem.

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michael adams
5:07 PM

I have the same problem with the persistent update request Blue Boxes on two different
Goodmans models
GD 11 FV ZS2
GD B18 FVZS2
However when I hooked up a Grundig box
there was no problem after retuning
just the once. I stopped using the Grundig
due to problems with aspect ratios and subtitles.
Its maybe intersting to note that both Grundig Boxes and the Bush box mentioned earlier all terminate "ZS2" - possibly this is the same softwarefirmware version as shared by all three models ?

michael adams



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Thea
5:08 PM

Thanks Mike, I will contact the manufacturer, and let you know how it goes.

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AD
5:36 PM
Banstead

Ok i just retuned my tv by doing a factory reset on the tv - not sure if that was the right thing to do but i followed instructions from the Freeview site...now how do i know if if everything is ok? Like how do i know if i've retuned the tv correctly? Cos im going to have to do the same for my sister's tv. i have an LG tv. my postcode is SM7

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